and arguably in the past, we've learned that intelligence is not that precise. >> so much turns on intelligence. it was interesting, your discussion with the israeli prime minister, and he said, well, it's six months, and they'll have 90%. and ambassador rice said, well, it's not imminent that they are going to get the bomb. if you study intelligence as i have for about 40 years, and jeffrey and i were talking about, some day we're going to write a book called "the unintelligence of intelligence." because it's just often wrong. and people are surprised. and, you know, deep, deep uncertainty about all of this -- 90%, six months, it's not going to happen. you don't know. >> what about this interference in our election? you're curious about that from both of you, because he takes on -- well, i pressed him on that. >> well, there's two issues. one is a legitimate issue, which is this debate over red lines. this is the debate that obama and netanyahu should have, a discussion, in private.